Pinterest

For the longest time, I felt like the only anti-Pinterest blogger out there. Whenever I tweeted anything negative, people were taken aback by my attitude. But, in the last few months, Pinterest got a lot of mainstream press. And with that came some constructive (and some not-so-constructive) criticism and a seemingly sudden ramp-up of negative feeling.

My own feelings towards Pinterest are extremely personal. They reflect how I consume content and what I find meaningful in the world. They reflect the same sentiment that I apply to blogging, to magazines, to media across the board – a desire for something substantive, reflective and inspiring in an actionable way. I don't disagree with the louder objections to Pinterest, but it’s not the heart of the matter for me personally. This is a long post, but I want to try to explain myself better because I’ve been asked about this a lot:

1. Copyright
Copyright is the objection most people lead with right now (read about it here and here). As I mentioned on Friday, for me that's an internet issue we’ll always be catching up to. Sure, Pinterest enables sharing of non-credited images and has some iffy small print to protect itself. I agree they should fix that. But Pinterest is just the flavor of the year and I guarantee this issue will follow users to the next social media tool, and the one after that too.

I also understand the shocked reaction from some Pinterest users when this issue is flagged. They’re benignly collecting images to inspire a reno or a wedding and all of a sudden being yelled at by bloggers. Many are just using Pinterest as a sorting tool, they’re not thinking of themselves as content-creators or thinking of their boards as  public-facing content. That said, of course, credits should be required and that process should be better enabled and upheld.

2. Hoarding versus inspiring
I believe that inspiration that is useful, that is acted upon, is a finite thing. I realized at the start of the year that I’d got into a habit of buying lots of food magazines. And that most of those food magazines never actually inspired me to try a new recipe. They hypothetically inspired me. In that moment, I thought, ooh I’d love to try that. But then before I ever got round to it, another magazine was on my coffee table and the same thing recurred.

I remember when I was young and magazines were like a rare treat. I eked every last bit of information out of each issue. I pored over every photo. I savoured it all and it inspired decisions, experiments, conversations and purchases. When there’s too much inspiration I feel like we detach it from action. We collect for the sake of collecting. And I believe that inspiration that doesn’t actually inspire action can only make you feel bad; a gap opens up between all the things that inspire you and your own life. I’m very much against women feeling shitty and inadequate because of over-styled images. Collecting inspiration that's never followed through on just seems like a negative cycle to me.

3. Images without context
It's no secret that I care about words. Of course, I understand that visuals are important in blogging and I too enjoy a beautiful image, a creative collage – both as a maker and as a user. But there’s so much prettiness out there that unless it has something substantive attached to it, I quickly glaze over. Blogs like Anabela’s and Hila’s (to single out just two) hit me at more than one level. There’s a whole lot of beauty, but there’s real substance, deep expression too. I love that marriage.

Hila has written about what gets lost when images are taken out of their context, the potential pain it causes. On a very old post (which I have since removed) I shared a picture of my Mum holding my baby brother. Paul died when I was four. And my post was about how that experience defined my whole childhood, how it changed our entire family dynamic, about how that still reverberates through my life. I recently saw that picture of Paul on Pinterest with the comment "adorable". Not unkind at all. But I'm sure you can imagine how I felt seeing this very personal post reduced to cute-fodder.

4. Reductionism
I believe good blogs reflect a whole person. Sometimes they’re vulnerable, angry, opinionated, romantic, silly, materialistic – the whole gamut. I love that blogs are not limited to just being about fashion or books, decor or editorials. We’re all so complex and I feel like traditional women’s media makes us choose between being smart or being pretty (I wrote before about how it was difficult when I was young for me to reconcile that I loved both literature and magazines). But blogs really let me express all of it.

When I see this page, however, I feel like all of that richness dissipates. It boils my blog down to all the things I actually hope my blog is not. And it makes me feel bad then, that this and only this is the take-away for some people. That is not my goal or the content that I want to contribute to the world.

5. Objectification
Those who know me online and in real life, know I’m pretty much the most emotionally open person in the world. Heart on sleeve. Where I'm less open is with my concrete life; my home, my friends, my own appearance. I don't like to style and pose. I might share a vignette or limited view of my apartment here and there, but I would never let my home be featured in a magazine. This may sound hypocritical, because I love to look at those pictures. But I don’t see my own life objectively. It’s an intimate thing for me to share even a limited view of my home. I’ve only put one photo of myself online in the last two years.

When I do share something like that, I fool myself into thinking I'm sharing with the small and intimate group of readers who gather here. I’m not ready for those images to be disseminated across Pinterest, commented and critiqued by the rabid crowd. It hurts me to see my own apartment on Pinterest. Even when the comment is positive, I don’t like it. I know this is a complex reaction; that it might betray something I need to get over. But it really feels objectifying to be looked at like that.

As I said, my reasons for disliking Pinterest are very personal ones. Last week, I installed the pin-blocker on my blog. I know it won’t work. I know it will mean my images go onto Pinterest without credits. But I want to send the message that sharing something online should not necessarily mean limitless sharing. I'm over the "you put it on the internet, so suck it up" attitude. I think we need degrees of privacy online, people should be able to share something without having to give up all their rights entirely.

I don’t blame Pinterest for all of this… they’re just the latest manifestation. And, in fact, I think they have an opportunity to really address some of those privacy / sharing options, to build a structured environment that allows people to set limits, to even allow completely private boards. So, I’m ending on a positive note – one that is hopeful that conscientious communities can exist, that products can be built that foster a more reflective form of sharing and inspiring.

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  1. 'Hoarding vs inspiring'.. thats the one that really hits home. Thanks!

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  2. I didn't even realize there was a controversy about Pinterest but this makes so much sense to me. Thanks for the sensitive and thoughtful post.

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  3. Jane,

    Wow - long comment here - sorry. First off thank you for sharing your thoughts on the issue & for sharing Hila's post on the matter. The image links she shared that were re-pinned without context were eye opening. I am certainly at fault for ignorant internet usage. I'm sure we all are to an extent. One issue here is freedom of internet usage in general.

    I remember you saying very early on in the days of Pinterest that you wished there was a way to use Pinterest privately. I too wish there was way to collect my inspirations but not share them publicly unless I own them or have explicit permission to share them. I understand the reasons that Pinterest is set up the way in which it is but I was certainly ignorantly blind to the legal ramifications and I am now considering deleting my boards. I try to give credit to my pins/have them linked to their original source and I will practice that with more discipline now. Also (and I did a wee post on this a few weeks back) I am flip flop between being inspired and disgusted by the amount of pretty frippery constantly shared. The loss of content and purpose to all those pretty images that your wrote about really resonates with me. As does the "pretty or smart" bit. Oh man.

    The positive benefits of Pinterest for me are multifold. 1 - you've actually seen my home studio's inspiration board that takes up 2 entire walls. I have saved and edited and ripped out more pages from magazines than I can count and I hate the clutter. That wall is only so large. 2 I truly use my inspirations for my design work. And I work hard not to just hoard images. 3 I can share my mood boards for collections with photographers, stylists, makeup artists etc. However - I don't like that everyone else can see those boards.

    In short - I'm torn.

    The heartening message I want to leave with you is that through reading your blog, Tamera's and many others, I learned about the issues of copyrights, image-inspiration-regurgitation and proper blog etiquette in general. Y'all taught me in a very kind and gracious way. When I started out "blogging" I knew squat. You've all helped me to refine my focus and be aware and accountable for what I'm posting about. Now I'll have to look at my Pinterest account through that lens and figure out what I'm doing with it.

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    1. Hi Sarahbeth

      Thanks for the comment!

      I still wish there was a way to use Pinterest privately. I always have various ideas on the go at once - art inspiring fashion, home decor, three of a kinds and they're all organized on my desktop... so I definitely appreciate the utility of the tool. I just don't want to reveal all that stuff when it's in progress!

      I hope other pinners realize the importance of crediting as well as you do!

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    2. Butting in here, but: I emailed them once long ago about the possibility of making private pinboards. That email was, unsurprisingly, met with a thudding silence. Nice.

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    3. Yes, Samantha - I remember that.

      I also e-mailed them about the archive of content sourced from my blog prior to installing the pin-blocker and, also, received no response. Not at all surprising, but still...

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  4. Anna at Door Sixteen is another blogger who's always been vocally against Pinterest. She says she gets a lot of backlash whenever she talks about it too. That, I don't understand. Even if one loved Pinterest more than anything, why not be willing to at least listen to differing viewpoints?

    Anyway, thanks for this post; I appreciate it.

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    1. I don't follow Door Sixteen regularly, but am not surprised that there are other bloggers out there who are against it. The experience of being pin-fodder is not very nice.

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  5. jane, as you know i have i have made vocal my thoughts about pinterest. why i dislike it is a little different than the reason stated on this post. You see when i first discovered all my photographs pinned i blushed and i was moved by it, i loved seeing what people filled the pictures under- the titles they gave them, i felt honoured that they were inspired by my photographs but then it dawned on me, i would never know how they felt , how my photographed inspired them unless i googled and came upon the la porte rouge pinterest page. it made me sad that there, one of my photographs could be pinned three hundred times, yet on my blog there would be no trace of those who pinned in the comments. i asked myself is this an ego thing, did i suddenly develop in ego, wanting my comment numbers to go up to reflect those who pinned. i realized that it was not that, what i wanted is to share my photograph with them and in turn wanted them to share a bit of there inspiration with me and that intimacy occurs when a comment is left than i trace them and get to know the person behind it through there own blog.

    i feel cheated of that interactions. i also found that 80 percent of my pinned photographs do not have a proper link back to me and through pinterest most links are broken do to the way the html is written.

    thank you jane for this post, to read and see the way pinterest affect you was enlightening.

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    1. I completely get this Nadia - and agree too. I tweeted once that there seems to be an inverse relationship between my most commented and most pinned posts. In general, I would say pinners don't read words, don't engage and are "on the hunt" for images only. It takes away from the engagement and dialogue around blogging.

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  6. Oh Dear, i 'm guilty of putting one of your sunday best posts (last october, the orange blouse with ferns) onto my wardrobe board--I look forward to your sunday ensembles and I figured it would lead people to your blog. I see what you mean, though. I don't like the re-pinning part of pinterest. I like to see lots of different images and following those that catch my eye back to their sources.

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    1. Oh Kate, this is precisely when it gets tough! I don't at all bear a grudge against individual pinners. The intention seems mostly sweet an urge that is completely understandable.

      As for the traffic argument, it only works when there's a credit (thank you for including one!) But that's often omitted. And, bloggers like me who don't monetize are less concerned with traffic numbers and more interested in sincere engagement.

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  8. Oh my, very well said. I've always been overwhelmed and turned off by pinterest, without being able to put my finger on why. It DOES feel like hoarding, nothing is thoughtful. It's similar to that recent post on the Satorialist about chasing fast fashion or "the next big thing." Pinterest is great for some, but just not my thing.

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    1. The community aspect is "not my thing" either. But I understand its utility as an organizing tool. Maybe Apple should build something like private Pinterest into their next OS!!

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  9. I agree with you on many fronts, particularly the copyrighting and artist crediting issues, which are symptoms of the greater problems of the internet in general. I also totally understand the personal objections to posting personal things on a blog (your cherished family photo, for example), then having them be taken out of context on pinterest. I can see wanting to protect your content as a result.

    I still do use pinterest, however; for me, it is purely a tool to help organize my major home restoration/renovation. Instead of hundreds of disorganized bookmarks in my browser (or photo files on my hard drive), I now have a convenient and easily organized place to keep track of the light fixture, the tile, a sample photo of the paneling idea I want to show my husband, etc.

    I don't socialize on or blog from pinterest, and I don't promote the fact that I have an account or want people to follow me (or whatever they call it). Most of my pins are actual product photos rather than "inspiration", though I do have a handful of those as well. (I need them as proof to my husband that my idea will work in context!)

    Using it in this way, I don't see how it is different from my pre-pinterest existence, other than the fact that my bits and pieces of information are now stored online rather than off.

    Does this make any sense?

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    1. Your point makes a lot of sense, and I would love to see a private option. I think that is a fantastic idea.

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    2. Hi Emily

      I understand. And I think the intention is the same for lots of users, which is why I'd love to see private accounts be a possibility. In that case, the need for crediting would evaporate unless you were to later use your images for a blog post etc.

      The fact is, that no matter how uninvolved a Pinterest-user is in the community right now, they're putting those images on a free, public-facing website where it can be redistributed, monetized and republished. So the fact that it is "considered" for private use only is moot. It's simply not private.

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  10. I agree with everything you've said about Pinterest. I do use it occasionally to pin things myself, but I use it mostly to follow other bloggers who pin, to catch interesting things that I may have missed. I just started blogging regularly (and am still trying to figure out what I want my blog to be), so I don't really have readers, or pinners, yet, but I can imagine the feeling that you expressed of the loss of context and words.

    Related to this, I think, is the problem of Tumblr. I can't tell you how many times I've clicked on something nice on Pinterest only to be brought to someone's Tumblr where the trail ends cold -- no credit, no link, only endless links to Tumblrs that have reposted it. Not only is it an offense to the original source, but it's infuriating for those of us actually interested in the who/what/where/when/why of it. And here again is the issue of hoarding vs. inspiring. Where is the curation? For me, that's the whole reason to subscribe to a blog, or follow someone on Pinterest -- because I appreciate her point of view and her taste, which is reflected in the content.

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    1. Hi Jaimie... Thanks!

      Yes Tumblr shares crediting problems, as does Ffffound, WeHeartIt etc. Copyright is an internet problem, not a Pinterest one. That said, if these sites are going to enable image sharing, monetization and distribution, they should build that into the user-experience of their site. I don't think they can ever land on something fool-proof because users always find a way. But they could spend a little more time educating users and making it more difficult for them to post without credit.

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  11. Jane, this is interesting and definitely something to ponder.

    I'm confused by the credit issue because Pinterest does take you back to the original post when you click on the pin, which is actually why I starting using it. I suppose if people pin from the main page of a blog then you wouldn't link back to the correct post and that would be frustrating - is that the issue? Pretty pictures in and of themselves aren't of great interest to me online (I enjoy looking at them, but feel no need to come back to them), but I do like a visual bookmark system.

    So, as a consumer - I do like using Pinterest as privately as possible (I've never shared my account name with anyone and I don't follow anyone) and would really like it if I could make my boards totally private. I have a few simple boards with specific purposes (recipes I want to try, projects I'd like to make, items I might want to purchase) and it's been an amazing way to store the links and have a visual reminder to make it easier to find the correct one quickly.

    As a blogger, I find that most people who pin my content are using it in the same way - pinning recipes or projects they'd like to try. I'm glad that they find some of my posts useful and it actually gives me a great deal of joy.

    Of course, everyone's blog is individual and I'll admit that I can be a bit miserly when it comes to doling out my personal content (that balance can be difficult for me to strike and sometimes I err on the side of retreating). So perhaps it's less disturbing to me because I'm not regularly sharing things that make me feel a bit exposed.

    The hoarding vs. inspiration is definitely something I can see would be a problem in general. I've found that I like to keep things pretty whittled down and that works for me. I don't read very many curatorial blogs because I find they make me want-y or feeling jealous (prefer ones with narrative or lots of variety) and I don't read magazines. I get Gourmet, pore over it each month when it arrives and that's the extent of my magazine intake - I find I can genuinely enjoy that hour I spend each month reading it and I don't have to flip through it because I have ten more waiting. I'm easily overwhelmed and staying focused has always been what keeps me happiest.

    A lengthy way of saying that Pinterest serves me well, but now I do have concerns about pinning other's content if they don't want it pinned. I hope that the pinblocker works for you and that Pinterest can come up with some solutions that make it more workable for everyone at different levels.

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    1. Thanks for clarifying, Jane! I hadn't run into that issue, probably because of my limited use of pinning and since I specifically use it as a bookmark system, I'm always careful to pin to the post I want.

      I do understand that my boards aren't private and this bothers me. I wish my browser had a bookmark system that worked the same way, or that my computer had a program that worked for me (although I like that I have access to my pins from whichever computer I'm on).

      I suppose the correct thing to do would be to stop using it, but I'm selfishly loathe to give it up. But I will do some further investigation and consider my own use and what options I have. Thanks for bringing this up.

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    2. Hi Rachel - The source link only works if it links to the originator of the image. If it links to a Tumblr or blogger who has reposted it without credit, it's not a proper source attribution. Similarly, if I blog an artwork (even though I always credit my sources in my posts) and that image is pinned, I am incorrectly linked to as the source, when the gallery / artist site is in fact the source. Very often my blog home page is the "source" of pinned images, which does not allow somebody to see the full credit that I have posted without trawling through my archives.

      I understand that many users don't consider their pinboards to be public. But the fact is, they are. Pinterest has over 10.4M active users. None of those user boards is private. Intention not to be "public" and /or non-promotion does not make them private. And all the content on those boards can be repinned, monetized and disseminated without permission of the image creators. In fact, if they're not themselves Pinterest users, they cannot even flag or comment on the images.

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  12. Thanks so much as always Jane for this post and for extending such a necessary and thoughtful discussion.

    By coincidence I just discovered a flickr account option that lets you prevent your images from being shared (Facebook, Tumblr etc.) and you've inspired me to switch it on. I do feel a mix of curiousity, interest, pride, bafflement, and some frustration when I see a photo I took on Tumblr with hundreds of notes. Sure it's not the same seriousness as an image of a Holocauset museum being taken out of context but there is something a little distressing about a photo I took of a particular place and on a particular day being lumped together with so many other images to form a generic and meaningless pastiche of pretty filmy photos.

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    1. I completely understand, Geoff.

      I think Flickr (maybe just because they're more mature at the community thing) has some neat options that should be added to Pinterest. Though none of it is 100% foolproof when a user has their mind set on something.

      And I completely get it. It doesn't need to be an extreme example to feel objectified. The thing that saddens me the most is when I find myself not blogging something here that I would otherwise because I don't want it to be pinned or reposted.

      It even made me mad to remove that post I removed, because it was an important thing for me to share and express and I know lots of people related. So it's sad that one unreflective pinner ruined that...

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  13. Jane,

    For years the internet has been a place of adventure and exploration. I know that's how I viewed it when I undertook 'Nibs' five years ago. I still look it that way. But I also see it as the 'Wild West'...an environment where there's little restraint and regard... most notably in the taking and using of copyright images. This isn't the first time it will be an issue...nor will it be the last.

    I do like how Life Magazine archive has achieved a middle ground- they expressly permit the posting of their photos for "...personal non-commercial use only." That's been the platform that I've tried to take. My blog is not online to make money. It's strictly there for me to work out my creativity while at the same time build friendships with other bloggers & readers. I use images (both mine and others) on Nibs because they reinforce my posts. In the last three years or so, I've been much more diligent about crediting photographers and linking to sources.

    Your take on 'hoarding versus inspiring' is spot on. I remember buying magazines as a teen and I would love to spend hours sifting through them. I tore out whole articles to save (I wanted to try out what was written about) or hang inspirational pictures on my bulletin board. Call me old fashioned...but twenty years later I still use this format. :)

    Martha B.

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    1. Hi Martha - I don't monetize either, so traffic growth is not as important to me as sincere engagement. I know many blogs are just images an no text, so the copyright issue becomes greater for them. For me context and reductionism are the biggest issues, but that's more about how I feel rather than anything "wrong" being done.

      I would use a tool like Pinterest privately but have no interest in the community aspect of it. In general, I feel like I share enough already online, so I don't want to add yet another community / thing to grow and maintain to my roster.

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  14. Thanks for your thoughts on this, Jane. I had a whole other rambling comment about internet "mentality" I was going to post, but it was very rambling and I think more me venting than addressing what you wrote. I was nodding in agreement with a lot of this and the "hoarding vs inspiring" really caught my attention. It reminded me of a post I wrote on my livejournal about Tumblr in the same vein.
    And you're right, it's not necessarily the fault of Pinterest. That's just the flavor of the month vehicle for this at the moment.

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    1. Haha - vent away. I love a good vent. I'm so happy that people are seeing the points on both side here. I was really bracing to be yelled at!

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  15. I agree I wish Pinterest could be used privately. I reluctantly joined Pinterest because I was unhappy how Google changed GoogleReader. I used to collect, tag, and share things with only my close friends. I could read and comment on a NYT article friends shared with me for example, and vice versa. I miss this element, the sharing of more substantial content, not just images. But they deleted most of these features and in fear they would delete more I joined Pinterest so I can easily keep track of my inspirations and share with close friends. But it is just not the same and I do not love it.

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    1. I hadn't considered that people would use Pinterest as a RSS reader. I'll have to wrap my head around that one...

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  16. I totally agree with you, and, actually, I don't have a Pinterest account, I always found it too vociferous, and thought it's too difficult to me to focus on something, and to feel something.
    What I adore, in your blog, is just the feelings, not only athmospheres, but the real feelings you share.
    They need silence and aesthetic respect.

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    1. Thanks Tilia - that is a very kind thing to say and much appreciated. It makes me happy to know that people slow down for that!

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  17. I'm so torn. I really do love using Pinterest. It's come in handy for me on a few occasions; the designer who will be making my wedding dress has found it helpful to look at to get a sense of my tastes (I do try to "pin" things that are consistent in colour, taste level, etc.), for example. But I hate the idea that I'm hoarding images: "pin it and forget it!" (a new commercial jingle). I do sometimes go back and scroll through mine for a general sort of inspiration, but I recognize that I am part of the problem, even if I am trying to use it in a specific way. I like to collect lookbook images, but I do occasionally post beautiful editorial photography. I haven't been able to find the balance, and their TOS certainly don't make it any easier.

    I think you've outlined issues with it beautifully. I hope they respond to all the backlash that has been coming their way.

    And thanks so much for the kind words about my blog. I'm so glad someone looks at it that way!

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    1. I completely get it, Anabela! I can see its utility for sure, especially around planning a wedding (haha not a scenario I need to worry about!)

      And of course I'm not the only person who sees your blog that way - anybody with eyes and a brain would!

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    2. Just to butt in here, I agree with Jane Anabela! Anyone who doesn't view your blog this way obviously isn't looking hard enough.

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  18. Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but there is an alternative to Pinterest which allows you to collect inspiration in almost the same way with the option of keeping everything (or some things) private - it's called Gimmebar. I still use Pinterest for things I don't mind sharing with others, but Gimmebar is great for when you want to catalogue certain things privately! (Or if you have concerns over sharing/incorrectly crediting the images you're collecting, of course.)

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  19. Very well written post. I can relate to feeling overwhelmed by all the inspiration coming at me from different sources. Like you I can remember buying one mag when I was in college and pouring over every page, reading every word. Now I skim through just to decrease my "to read" pile.

    I have been having 2nd thoughts recently about Pinterest, there are so many different opinions on whether pinning an image with a random comment is really a review under fair use, even with an appropriate credit and it makes me feel very uncomfortable as I try to be very respectful of copyright (unlike many other design & style bloggers who fill their blogs with images from magazines, other bloggers and think a mere "via" makes it ok). You've given me a new perspective on the sharing issue, particularly what you said about an image being taken out of context. I am an aspiring writer and agree, an image is not the same without the narrative attached.

    I also agree non-blogger users wouldn't think about these issues and are just using the site with only good intent. But as a blogger, I do feel a bit more accountable, like I should know better.

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    1. Tania - I agree that as content-creators we should be more cognizant of content quality and creating the kind of environment that fosters a deeper reflection.

      That sounds preachy, but if you put all the crap books at the front of the store, you can't really complain when everybody buys crap books. Similarly, if we keep shoveling coal into these unreflective sites, I don't think we can complain much when people won't slow down to read words anymore.

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    2. After reading your post and a slew of others, I finally climbed off the fence and cancelled my account. One of the challenging things about blogging I'm finding is keeping my focus on why I blog. I started to blog to write, both feature lifestyle posts and essay like pieces. Not to make money as many hope to do but as a much needed creative outlet. But it is so easy to get wrapped up in seo, traffic,etc and pinterest felt more and more like something I "should do" as a lifestyle blogger. Truth is, I hardly went on. After a day at the computer working in finance, I come home and write, blog, read news and other content. After all of that, I never felt like pinning too. Rather get into bed with a good book, mag or movie/documentary. So I won't miss it.

      You don't sound preachy at all. I hate when I read blogs are on their way out because everyone wants shorter content. I disagree, many of us enjoy the beautiful prose on many blogs. What good would twitter be without content of substance to link to? A world full of sound bites is not a place I'd want to be.

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    3. It is so hard to blog if you're always checking traffic and judging the success of every post. If we only pandered to successful posts, it would be ponies and purses all day long. Not that I don't love ponies and purses, but I also love poetry and challenging ideas. Those posts are not usually the most popular (especially on Pinterest) but they are the ones that help me build relationships and a reputation and distinct voice.

      My goal in writing this post wasn't to make anybody quit Pinterest at all, so I hope you're fully happy with your decision. But, I do agree, reading a book is a much better use of that time!

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  20. Very very well-articulated, Jane. I struggle with all of the same issues and while I do use pinterest as a bookmarking tool (most often for wedding-planning, recipes, etc.), it's never felt 100% right to me. Your point about hoarding vs. inspiring is so spot on. It actually boggles my mind that some pinterest users I follow have amassed millions(!) of followers for what is essentially a curation of pretty pictures. In ways, it feels empty and severely lacking in depth. I've been trying to significantly cut back my daily online consumption and whenever I spend thirty minutes scrolling images, I always end up wishing I'd chosen to read a book or taken a walk instead.

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    1. Thanks Kayla - I really think it would have a lot of utility if it was private / semi-private. But they probably would have a harder time monetizing and the whole web 2.0 thing is pretty much premised on sharing EVERYTHING with EVERYBODY, which is where all these issues sneak in...

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  21. I'm glad after our short twitter conversation about this a few weeks ago that you decided to write a full post about this - it's given me so much more insight and respect for your views. Although I dislike Pinterest for my own reasons, I was unsure where you were coming from.

    I think, like many others that have commented here, your point about hoarding versus inspiration hits the nail on the head. This is part of what makes Pinterest so frustrating - what begins as well curated inspiration quickly spirals into a chaos, and images become regurgitated and therefore meaningless. I think the increasing regurgitation of "thinspiration" (Pinterest user speak for photos of starved models in designer clothing) is what has changed my feelings about it. Like you explained, images without context can lead to really unhealthy and misguided perceptions of what it's really about.

    Thank you for sharing the anecdote about seeing the photo of your mother and brother. I'm sad that you took down that post! I really wish I could read it, but I understand, and if it had happened to me I likely would have done the same.

    That being said, I still feel that adding the pin blocker and whatnot is making a bad situation worse. You really would rather have no traceable attribution at all, rather than leave that possibility open for yourself? I say this in all respect, but that seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face. I think it would make more sense to leave a watermark across your images, etc., but to each their own.

    Thanks again for giving us such a thoughtful and challenging post. Truly, your honesty and clarity are what set you apart.

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  22. There are so many great comments here, and I can so relate with Anabela, because I feel torn about the issue. The problem with these sites is that by using them, you're participating in their problems and issues. But, that doesn't cancel out your own personal interaction with them.

    I do enjoy Pinterest, and any criticism I've levelled against it comes from the position of someone who is aware of the contradictory nature of my critique. It will probably take me a long time to decide what I actually want to do with my use of the site. I've been thinking of deleting my account and boards altogether, but that makes me feel bad. I had another idea of going through each pin and sourcing it from it's original source only, with a background story to the pin. And if I can't do that, then I'll delete the pin. But that takes a long time, I'd need to set aside a 'not busy' day, which doesn't seem to exist for me lately. All these dilemmas I'm having.

    I think you know what my personal problems are with Pinterest from the post you so kindly linked here. But from a legal perspective, I also find this interesting. I'm currently working on a government and university project based on sharing teaching and research content online through creative commons licensing. I'm not a copyright lawyer, but I do work with some. From my understanding, it would be pretty useless for anyone to legally sue any individual Pinterest users, even with their dodgy terms of service. In most cases, it would probably only amount to a take down notice. However copyright and internet laws are so complicated, and they are constantly changing. For example, 'fair use' law has recently come under review with publishers to incorporate DVD screen-grabs for academic and 'critical review' use.

    I think Pinterest does need to rework its concept and terms of service, although I highly doubt this will happen.

    P.S. Thanks for your kind words about my blog, I feel the same about yours.

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    1. Thanks Hila. Yes, you're quite right it's unlikely that any individual would be sued by a content provider. Though Conde or another big organization could cause difficulties.

      I'm a little more optimistic that Pinterest is interested in working through this. But I tend to be hopeful in these situations...

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  23. Very interesting post. Thank you. I've been uncomfortable with Pinterest for a while for many of the reasons you stated. However, if you're looking for a similar website you may want to take a look at Clipix.com. You have the option of making your boards private, which is what I do.

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  24. I came here via Hila's blog, and have been really intrigued by the discussions sparked by these mass-image-gathering platforms. I really appreciate your thoughtful, articulate insight on this issue, especially the idea of hoarding vs. inspiring. I don't know all that much about Pinterest, as I've never personally used it, but every time I've clicked on a source link on a blog that leads me to a pinboard, it's often disappointing how difficult it becomes to find the original context and source of an image.

    As a design student, tools like Pinterest and Tumblr have been thrown around as suggested means of collecting inspiration imagery, and while I do find a number of Tumblrs beautiful, I'm still all for the physical boards. The process of going to the library or physical image archives and having a tangible connection with materials from is incomparable. The limited space of a physical board or wall also forces you to consider images carefully, slow down the hoarding, and edit the visual information that you have gathered. I think that restraint can actual fuel more and better creative inspiration.

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    1. I agree that limited space means inspiration has to be much more carefully created and chiseled down to the real substance. I feel the same way about domestic spaces too. I've learned to be disciplined with "stuff" in my physical world and I carry the same principles to my virtual stuff. It helps somewhat that I'm a neat-freak. But it means I actual tap the resources of my inspiration folders often because I have clear ideas about what's in there. Some of this is about a personal approach to "stuff" though - I know other people who thrive in chaos!

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  25. Hello Jane, I have read through this post several times. I have been reading your blog for a few years and especially in the beginning of my own blogging adventures, I learned so much from you and other thoughtful bloggers about content sharing and crediting. I recently stopping trying to maintain a regular blog myself because I became overwhelmed with the "keeping up" and the superficial stress of stats, followers, and the pictures vs. content debates I was always having with myself. There is so much to be consumed these days that it really can sometimes leave me in a comatose state of "over inspiration".
    I recently decided to take a break, to pare down my blogroll to a few blogs that truly touch me with meaningful content, (This being chief among them!) and to really think about how my online consumption really effects and inspires my own creativity. Am I really moved to actually DO something in response to all those pictures I pin? Does reading the words of others really help me to formulate my own?
    Since I have drastically cut down on my consumption, I have definitely noticed a positive shift and am slowly laying the new groundwork for the kind of blog that I always meant to write.
    Your thoughts on Pinterest have really put me deep in thought. I was so excited about the site when I first joined, because I really thought it would be different and somehow more "noble". I have been so disappointed in recent months when I try to track down an original source and find myself lost in an endless web of pinboards and Tumblr accounts. And yet personally, I have still gained a lot of positive things from using Pinterest and I'm not quite ready to give it up, but I'm so happy that you wrote about this. I feel challenged once again to constantly consider the repercussions of my online actions and its encouraging that this discussion is happening.
    Thank you again for all that you write here. I can't even tell you how many times in recent months the poems you have shared here have moved me to tears. They were absolutely the perfect thing to read at the perfect moment...

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    1. Thank you so much for this. I consume a lot fewer blogs these days too - not because I'm convinced there isn't wonderful stuff going on, but because I want to develop my own stuff rather than consuming. I also make a concerted effort not to consume anything in the early morning. I find if I start the day as a consumer, I find it difficult to hear my own voice.

      Anyway, thank you so much for this and for continuing to visit me even as you pare down your blog consumption! I'm very flattered to be on that shortlist!

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  26. Jane,
    As you might know, I am a fan of your lovely and thoughtful blog. I joined pinterest for a number of reasons, mainly because I work in the digital space and need/want to understand what is available, what is trending well online etc...I couldn't agree more with your positioning about pinterest, i was shocked to see a sugar pie page. On one hand, I guess i have some readers:) LOL but on the other hand, I felt oddly exploited, perhaps too strong of a word, but close. Online privacy will always be an ongoing issue, it wont get solved soon but it will and must come to a head soon, i would think.
    Anyway, thank you for posting this and for putting your gorgeous blog out there.
    Michelle x

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    1. Thanks Michelle! It is a strange sensation - seeing your content distilled and up there without context, isn't it?

      I agree privacy is a huge issue (and especially degrees of privacy). And that's not just Pinterest. Hopefully some bright spark comes up with some innovative solutions!

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  27. One more thought, the other thing that bothers me about all this online sharing of stuff is how it all flows through facebook for everyone to see...what we read, listen to etc...its too much.

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  28. Can you feel my exuberant amen coming your way from Halifax? YES! Thank you for so beautifully articulating the more emotional reasons Pinterest feels wrong to me. We have been talking about the legal issues and the ethics of image sharing online + crediting for our ethics theme this month on OMHG. I knew there were deeper issues that were nagging at me that related to engagement and this post is exactly why I deleted my boards.

    I get tons of traffic from Pinterest (over 20k per month) almost all going to one post that is not even remotely relevant to the depth of what we share on the site. My whole passion in life is community, engagement, interaction-meaning! Traffic is nice but means little to me if it doesn't translate into vibrant relationships. The bounce rate of those Pinterest visitors is 90% which just makes me sad. With 30 contributors I write very few of the posts on OMHG, my amazing friends & collaborators share freely and write us such valuable content. It makes my heart heavy to think of thousands upon thousands tromping through without taking a second to look around or jump into the conversation or thank them personally for sharing.

    I think Pinterest has this bright opportunity just staring them in the face-maybe it is over 10 years of non-profit/community development/bleeding heart work but if they approach this creatively it could be brilliant. I have some ideas for how the creative community could work together to advocate for a makers code of ethics just before Curator's Code appeared. More proof that there is a push online for those of us who value context and meaning in our online experience. Anyway, I've rambled in your comments for long enough-I'm going to cut myself off and go think on all of this while I wrangle my girls to bed. Thank you for opening this discussion here from such a place of kindness & vulnerability. I respect it so much! We're having an #omhg chat tomorrow from 1-2EST on Twitter about Pinterest ethics with co-host Anile of Girlfriday I will be sharing your post then:)

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    1. Hi Jessika

      Thank you for this! Overall, I'm so relieved by the reaction to this post. I was sure I was being too precious in my reactions and I sat on those post for a very long time - months even - trying to articulate exactly how this all felt and seemed to me. Like you, I knew my issues were deeper, more personal and emotional than the more straightforward indignation about crediting or lack thereof.

      It's interesting. I work in media by day and for years we've been talking about advertisers moving away from CPM and page-views and moving towards running campaigns based on metrics like time spent and return rates. Media companies have got so good at getting extra clicks out of users and many of the big blogs cheat extra PVs too (to the detriment of user experience). I would very much like advertisers buy based on more meaningful metrics. And I feel that this would see some improvements with content that is created but also how it is presented.

      Of course, most blogs don't have CPM campaigns, just simple sponsors. Or, like mine, no ads at all. So there are different motivations at play. For me it's all about sincere and intelligent dialogue. When my traffic spikes, I often notice conversation quality goes down, so I tend to stay away from those promotion methods that cause spikey traffic - Pinterest was definitely sending that more voracious, unreflective user my way.

      I won't be able to join your live chat unfortunately (work!) but hope the discussion is lively! People clearly have a lot to say here.

      Thanks again!

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    2. "For me it's all about sincere and intelligent dialogue."

      It shows! Your site is an absolute treasure I am so thankful for finding. This dialogue with your readers & their considered/thoughtful responses is very beautiful to me and is what I work to cultivate for our site. I continue to be hugely hopeful about the power of these respectful conversations changing the way we interact online. I have been so amazed by the supportive community I have found and love seeing other places like this online + in Canada too!

      It would be great to chat with you about ethics & online advertising + blogging. I have been looking for resources or someone to interview/write a guest post on this exact topic. I get a large number of inquiries from ad companies wanting to buy space on OMHG that I say no to because I have had a hard time finding objective info & am more concerned with 'meaningful metrics' as you put it so nicely. If this is something you would be willing to share your knowledge about I would love to interview/have you visit us or get your insight via email! You can email me at editor@ohmyhandmade.com if you are interested:)

      Our #omhg chats are always lively & full of different perspectives/respectful discussion-its magical really:) Hope you can join us one day! I am excited about re-visiting your lovely site often for thoughtful inspiration:)

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  29. Great post! I wasn't aware of the whole Pintrest issue... Thank you for giving your point of view

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  30. Jane,

    Thanks much for your thoughtful and articulate writing about Pinterest. And thanks, also, to commenters, who have also brought good thoughts for pondering to this discussion.

    I read Ill Seen and Ill Said, as well as Hila's blog, because they are both full of depth and meaning. Meat on the bones. A real snack, or a real meal, instead of junk food hastily grabbed and consumed. I appreciate you, your sensibility, your beautiful style, your writing, and your intelligent thought. Your comments above on inspiration vs. hoarding are an example of the perfect kind of insightfulness you offer; boy, did that strike home!

    Thinking about the idea that "you put it on the internet, so suck it up," brings me to 1) the big, deep question of what it means to share something on "the internet," and 2) a realization of how far we have to go in coming to understandings about what is right and true and respectful in using this tool. It seems we each have a very personal intention when posting -- whether we do it through a web site, blogging, or YouTube. And then someone takes it and does what they want with it, whether we think it's beautiful or ugly or disrespectful - and they have their own personal intention in doing so. And it all happens within minutes. Posters are imaginging the community they want to view their posting -- whether just themselves (as many of the Pinterest posters above identify) or people who think like they do, or any number of communities imagined. The problem is that there is no community there, because community only comes through engaged sharing.

    Maybe all of us blog readers all need to be reminded, regularly, of a blogger's intent and hopes for his or her content. I'm not sure how to do that without sending like a broken record or setting up a sense of not sharing openly, and it certainly doesn't address copyright issues. But, I would appreciate the reminders. The other option, it seems -- not to solve the problem -- but to reduce the harm -- would be to have subscribers who agree to certain terms. But, that's really moving away from blogging . . . Ahhh, back to the big question.

    That's why discussions like this, advancing our advanced-society cultural knowledge and development are so important. Thank you.

    Andrea

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    1. P.S. My apologies for mis-writing above your blog name, Ill Seen, Ill Said

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    2. Thanks Andrea!

      Yes, there are lots of meta-questions here: What is the internet? what is an online community? can there be degrees of online privacy? what can we reasonably expect when we put something on the web? and on...

      All of this is evolving. The pessimist in me says these issues won't be resolved unless there's a fiscal incentive (i.e. somebody sees a way to monetize a solution). The optimist in me knows the positive force of the community, the real bonds of sharing that have arisen from online communities. It's difficult to know how this will all come out in the wash, we're living its evolution.

      And it's because of this that I think ongoing reflection, critical thinking and discussion is important... otherwise we'll get from A to B with no idea how or why, pushed by agendas of big media and entrepreneurs with get-rich-quick schemers who don't bother to finesse the details of execution (Facebook and Pinterest seem classic examples of that).

      But I have a gut sense of decency here if we can remember the very simple detail that behind each individual blog there is one regular person. They're mostly doing what they do for free. It's such a basic form of reaching out and communicating and I think that requires a very human response. When stripped back to this, I find there's something so innocent about most blogger's intent. And I hope that that warrants respect of their content, even in the case of disagreements.

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  31. I have been a reading and appreciator of your blog for some time and have found this post to be both interesting and thought provoking. I do have some additions to your thoughts. As far as copyright I do believe that it should be easier to find the true website behind pinterest images for both the website and the user as a way to help share information. Many of the images on the website are recipes and how-to's that may never reach a larger audience if it wasn't for pinterest or other such websites.

    Websites such as reddit have been trying to make sure that information is credited to the correct source by sourcing it themselves or other members of the community correctly identifying the source. I also wonder how you have managed to creating of your clothing mood boards. Have you asked each individual business how they feel about you using and changing their clothing image? I guess I just don't really see the difference between correctly using pinterest and a mood-board posted on a blog.

    In closing I think that people need to think long and hard about the things they are putting out on the internet for everyone to see. Anonymity doesn't really exist on the internet. Thinking before you post is a hard lesson everyone learns eventually (ex: celebrity twitter accounts). With this the internet can become a more thoughtful and interesting place for all. I think the basic idea behind pinterest is a place to build a community with similar interests and share creative ideas. It might not be a perfect example but it does present some interesting thoughts.

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    1. The relationship between a retailer and press is not a good corollary for the relationship between a content-creator and consumer / Pinterester.

      If I ran each "Sunday best" by the retailers featured it would be rendered "advertorial". You cannot ask for approval from retailers and manufacturers and claim content is editorial. This is one of those areas where every content creator could benefit from a little journalism 101.

      I had to laugh when you at once lecturing about expectations of privacy while your comment, and trolls and spammers, get to hide behind "anonymous" handles.

      Of course, I realize that "public" means completely public these days and that there are no degrees of privacy in place today. What I'm saying is that the current state ought to be challenged. (As an aside, I don't agree that celebrities should have to give up reasonable expectations of privacy either).

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  32. thanks, jane. this is a timely post! seems like pinterest is all over the web both positively and negatively. really not sure how i feel about it all,it's flattering to see my photos pinned when there's credit given and especially annoying when i see my own photos pinned with no link back to my blog or shop. so it's great to read someone else's well thought out opinion.

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  33. I loved this post, Jane. Really got me thinking. I don't have the time at the moment to read through all of the comments right now, so forgive me if this is repetitive, but I have one question and one comment to add. My question is what is the best/easiest way to credit photos that are pinned? If you're pinning from a site, is it best to just put the credit in the caption? What if you're repinning?

    And my comment is I hadn't really considered people pinning photos off of my blog to be troubling until you used the example of your brother's photograph. It does feel wrong to me that personal photos I put up on my blog can be put anywhere on the internet. I don't personally mind images of my home, still lifes, etc being in people's pinboards, but it does make me feel weird to think of my baby girl winding up as a pin somewhere. It does make me take a step back and think about censoring what I put on my blog if I'm not comfortable with it being pinned anywhere by anyone.

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    1. I'm not a Pinterest user so I don't know all its workarounds. I'm sure there is a code of conduct somewhere on the site showing how users should be crediting.

      Basically, I would copy and paste all the additional crediting information (via, photographer, stylist etc...) in the comments section below he image.

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  34. It took me a few days to get to commenting on this, but I just wanted to thank you for this post. I think a lot of people don't really think twice about what kind of harm Pinterest can do because it seems so, well, harmless. The copyright thing makes me feel uncomfortable to the point that I stopped pinning things, my Pinterest page is pretty much dead now. But I don't have a problem with people pinning my photos because, and maybe I'm way too trusting, but I can't honestly see Pinterest selling my photos or using them in a malicious way because they "own" them now. But I respect the fact that other people are scared of that, so I stopped pinning. Where my biggest problem with Pinterest lies is what the culture of Pinterest has become. A group of mean, spiteful women (it's largely women I see doing this) cutting each other down and basically giving a thumbs up or down to what you pin. Pinterest started as an inspiration board but is now just a social media site where you can rate others pins. I don't know how on earth it happened as even when I did pin I rarely did, but I have over a quarter of a million followers which has lead to the masses coming to my page and saying insanely hurtful things. When asked why they're being so mean so many of them respond with the ridiculous "I have a right to my opinion" crap. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but do they for one second think about the girl in the photo they're cutting down or the painter they're insulting? My last straw came when a very popular blogger pinned a painting by a friend of ours and the comments filled quickly with "did you baby paint that?" "this is not art, this is awful" "this angers me that someone would call this a painting" comments. My blood boiled. Of course half of the world is filled with people who feel that way about abstract art, but never had I been so face to face with such vile commentary. It's not constructive and it has no place or purpose on someone's "inspiration board". The person who created that image never asked for you to pin that and let the masses argue over its worth.

    So in the end, I can't scroll through my home page pins without seeing this kind of awful noise and hate. I'm done. What was once my inspiration board is now a place I go to be filled with anger. I would love for Pinterest to let people turn comments off.

    End rant!

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    1. Kate - I agree completely. It does seem mean! I've used the word "rabid" to refer to how it feels... women just image-hungry and mean. My Sunday best posts were often pinned multiple times within minutes of going live... it was obvious the pinners weren't reading the post, and never left comments. I don't want to use hyperbolic language but it felt like it was coming from a very voracious place instead of a sincere, "oh, I love this and want to save to remind myself".

      I wonder if this is a critical mass thing and a bit of mob mentality, where people lose their reflectiveness and their sense of there being an individual behind the content they consume. I'm sure this lack of reflectiveness is what gives people license to be mean. It amuses me (maybe amuses is a wrong word) that a tool that's supposed to be used to curate inspiration is now used to lambaste content and other people's taste.

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  35. I love how you expressed some feelings that I didn't even know that I had. And hoarding is the perfect term for it. I do love that when I need a recipe or an idea for something around my home, I have so many options right at my finger tips. I try really hard to make sure there is a link back to the original site, but sometimes I can make a mistake. For example, I'll accidentally pin to a blog's main page instead of the specific post. I think I have all of one photo from my blog pinned (at least that I know of) and that was by my aunt so I haven't even thought about how I would feel with others pinning images from my site.

    I liked how you explained that a blog reflects a whole person. That is so true. I don't even know how to write a good bio about myself for my blog! I'm a writer so I don't include a ton of photos on my blog. Sometimes it is frustrating to me that people believe you must have so much visual content to make your blog successful. I like words. I think there is room for different forms of content in blogs and on the internet. I guess one reason I've never loved Pinterest is because it favors the visual.

    Thanks for giving me something to think about.

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    1. I too am frustrated by instructions (often heard tweeted from Alt and similar summits) to pay more attention to images than words, to limit words or always include a picture with every post.

      I love beautiful images so include them when I want to. I like coming to my own blog and thinking it looks nice. But I also want there to be substance beyond that. I deliberately leave images out of most of my poetry posts, for example, because I want people to really pay attention to the words.

      That said, I follow many blogs (graphic artists, photographers etc.) that are purely visual. So I'm not at all anti-visual, but I do think the blog world as a whole is visually biased and that this is often to the detriment of deeper substance.

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  36. great post, Jane!
    it hit the buttons on many levels... I think Beth sums it up pretty well: http://www.mysimplerlife.com/blog/new-idea

    the hoarding of visual stimulation vs. 'taking action' as Beth puts it: yes, indeed! I can totally relate, as I've been guilty of doing just that.
    If Pinterest consisted of private boards, then it would be a great tool for sorting and keeping track of interesting things.

    -Vic

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  37. Thank you Jane for your candid, heart felt post on Pinterest. I've enjoyed your site for quite awhile now. What has drawn me to it is your way of crafting words weighed down with meaning, and this post did not disappoint. I recently joined Pinterest, and yes, like many others have 'pinned' yours as a favorite blog. However, I feel as if I've given away your telephone number without permission...if so, my apologies.

    I'll muddle over your post and reconsider my pinning of other sites, ideas, etc. I want to be about creating, not just action and hoarding.

    Best to you,
    Lesli

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    1. Thanks Lesli... I guess it's difficult to be clear-cut because I don't feel uncomfortable at the individual Pinterest-user level, but with the community as a faceless whole. So, you pinning from my blog doesn't bother me at all... it's the chain of events and the crowd that might attract... if that makes any sense?

      Two sites that allow private inspiration collecting have been brought to my attention: ImageSpark and Dropmark. I haven't tried either of them, but they might be worth investigating... especially if you're not too far into Pinterest. It seems more and more that the copyright issues are exploding re Pinterest.

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  38. I’ve had a Pinterest account since 2010 and truly loved it. I’m link hoarder (for shame) whose rampage is spread across 2 computers and a Google document in hopes of purging and organizing one day for real use when needed. So when Pinterest rolled around it was awesome. I realized after reading your post that I have transformed my link hoarding (that was an excellent issue you provided) into visual form. I’ve been going through my boards deleting pins that no longer appeal to me and while in the midst have discovered that I can even remember why I pinned certained images. I have started another a Pinterest account where I don’t follow anyone and no one follows me (which is probably the closest I can get to private) for business related purposes. I do wish Pinterest had private boards but it seems that they are pushing the social networking label which I can’t say I’m a fan of. The comments have gotten ridiculous but sometimes I do scan them since people do inquire about a pin (which theoretically should be answered through the caption).

    I have seen some of my floral images from my blog pinned on Pinterest (which honestly makes me giddy) but I don’t really get any credit in the caption. Alternately, I also pin images from various fashion editorial sites and make a point to list at the the very least credits to the photographer(s). It annoys me to no end to see an image that I pinned and properly credited being altered and reduced to a ”.” in the caption. Awhile ago, I noticed that many images that have been pinned from my site have disappeared from the source url trick so I can’t really monitor what’s been pinned from my site like before.

    While I have been blogging for almost 4 years now meeting some people through my blog and even garnering some opportunities thanks to it, I am quite the shy person so only my immediate family know about my site or really my online participation. So for myself, opening up has been a gradual and (very) slow process even on my blog hence my action to link my Pinterest account, participating in Twitter (although that’s slow for me too), and eventually sharing my Instagram account. I guess technically I’m spreading my reflection out into different facets in case someone wants to follow on. However, I do like to keep my blog as the source for these extensions. It took me a long time to embrace my blog as a reflection of different things rather be placed in one neat (but boring) box. I want to keep it that way.

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